RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. When Colorado banned high cap magazines magpul moved to Texas. I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. Thanks a bunch pricks! RRA is pretty close to Iowa iirc. People are watching everything the government and companies are doing now. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. No offense meant, I was just pointing out that Springfield Armory has no connection to the city of Springfield Illinois. If only there was a place to run-and-gun in or near NWI. Magpul moved. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? Well, now. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. WebProduct Description. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. The Springfields looked to be a good value. They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. So I went on a buying spree. Not now. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. Im not ordering anything Springfield. Great gun. Now Im off to call Cabelas and inform them of SAs treachery and why i will not buy from them as long as they carry SA product, http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?recordsPerPage=18&No=0&N=0&nl=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Springfield+Armory&search=Search. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. No more. What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. Rugers stated public position was screw every other gun manufacturer and screw the American gun owners, as long as Ruger makes it and we want government contracts! How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. Well, said. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. So I have to ask. And then maybe. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. I hear you on that Ruger. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. Colona, IL (May 2020) Rock River Arms, one of the industry leaders in AR-platform firearms, expands its line of defensive semi-autos with the introduction of the RRAGE 10.5-inch pistol. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. As if they want to implode. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. Henry? My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. You write as though weve been asleep. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). In the former case its a matter of not really understanding the client and in the latter its a case of assuming that its better to ask for forgiveness than to beg for permission. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. (Im a 30 yr Vet). Then beg for forgiveness. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. If you do a little digging, you will find they were importing 1911s from Brazil in the early days too. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. Cancelled orders? I totally agree Travis. Nothing unethical about this practice. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. 84283412342. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. They hate freedom and absolutely love all powerful Government. What part of their history am I missing Gov? Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. That will never happen now. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. Low character move. Thanks Springfield. Was also saving up for an m1a. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. Rock River Arms earned their reputation by manufacturing some of the most accurate and reliable semi-auto rifles for the law enforcement and civilian markets. Im a New Yorker. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. An American voting for a Democrat Heres a basic synopsis of the original company; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history. Good luck RRA. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. Some times they have deals. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. Better sell that RRA while you still can. This story is libel. Who Makes Rock River Arms? SA created it). Obviously Springfield and others have not learned this lesson and are going down the same road. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. my first AR was a rock river arms rrage. Web50%. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. CZ-75/85 are great guns. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? And theyre telling their friends. Didnt you read this article? Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. For a while there, post SAFE-ACT passage, it looked like 10-round (I know, right) mags were going to be outlawed. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. Didnt Smith and Wesson do the same thing back in the Clinton era, and it nearly bankrupted them, let alone took them years to reclaim the trust of the gun community. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? Never buying anything from springfield ever again and my one xdm is up for sale as of yesterdayI dont even want it in my safe. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. No other IL manufacturers donated, not Armalite, not DSA, nada. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber (Rock River Arms)[14] or the ArmaLite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm NATO and .223 Remington equally well. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. Performance Tuned. Going the other direction nobody would move. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. Advertise their treachery. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. I have to say this really makes me mad. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. Last trip to the range, ran a couple hundred rounds of all flavors through it without an FTE/FTF. This says a lot about the people running the company. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of Never give one inch or miles will be lost. People Of The Gun have long memories. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. This product has an average rating of 4 stars out of 5 stars from 3 ratings. business or not your customers are your lively hood. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Some would disagree. AR-15 Parts. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. I say boycott both RRA and Sprinfield until they get sold off to someone who cares about gun owners. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. No Springfield guns for me. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. Theres no way to know for sure. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. Search Ruger anti gun. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. Make the bill political kryptonite. As the market changes so does our pricing. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. A CEO that listens to the customer. Damage done. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. If you dont like their price dont buy. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. A corrupt Illinois politician. If CTD notices panic buying, cancels prior sales and refunds them, so it can resell stuff that belonged to its customers, thats not their right. Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. No offense intended. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. If you know youre going to lose 50% off sticker driving something new off the lot, odds are you keep looking. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. This rifle is fed by a 10-round AICS-pattern detachable box magazine. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. As for furniture, the BT 9 R9 Competition comes with a Hogue overmolded pistol grip and a four-position adjustable Rock River Arms buttstock. They ignored it. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. That is amazingly But thats only a fraction of his treachery. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. Id like to see Springfield make a correction here but it might be too late for that. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. Fuck them for gouging desperate buyers. But they were happy to allow their lobbyist to finagle them a carve out. See below for more information. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. Specifications and Features: Rock River Arms AR-15 Magazine AR0116N30 .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO 30 Round Capacity Anti-Tilt Follower Proven Reliability Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Please, spend your money where you want. Get a Dan Wesson instead. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Very close to where I grew up. The firearms community will be better without them. WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. No further recommendation about the products will be made. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. Customer service beyond any reproach. You have entered an incorrect email address! Boom. Asit should. Rock River Arms has Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. Accurate and precise for You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. After Bill Ruger died, Ruger also dramatically changed direction. Thanks for Nothing SA. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. Grow the hell up and when you get some big boy panties and own your own business you will understand how it works. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. This just proves that point. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Any I have to ask WHY? We feel that IFMAs I made the move to northwest Indiana 20 years ago. Yes, a company can move and thrive, as it only a matter of time before the cutout is removed and they are closed down. How does what a lobbying group receives from a company 3 years ago translate to what the lobbying group does in the present? By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Is Rob Leatham going to stick with Springfield after this debacle? I think probably not. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? Its sad but it happens. Well after reading this and let me add no love for blue Illinois my days with SA are over. You are both dead to me now. I dont think youre using that word right. Springfield is DEAD to me. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. 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